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Re: Tournament and event threads

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xalex wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:43 am
Okay I must say I get the idea behind this... but I see a few problems with that. Where to draw the line?
Noob: You said:.."maybe if you can't commit to posting frequently then you shouldn't have joined the event."... Okay but if someone is a frequently poster or not would everyone see different... I hope I don't insult you right now but to me your not one of the most frequently posting people already...
Can you provide examples of Noob posting slowly to events?
xalex wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:43 am
let's overdo it a bit for the sake of showing, if we would take that seriously only the top poster should be allowed to enter events...(under no way kn hell we should do that)
No one suggested this or is even implying this. Events can run just fine even if most or all of the participants aren't top posters. The point of the thread is to discuss prioritization, not overall posting frequency.
xalex wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:43 am
But I also think prioritizing the tournament or events to hard is no good thing either...if you close to a deadline yes then you maybe should shortly put other matches aside but under normal circumstances you should reply and threat any event match like a normal match.... you definitely shouldn't slow down I'm your other matches because of it , you shouldn't pause other matches because a event comes up or even break up some
Why is it not a good thing? No one is forcing you to slow your matches down or participate in events. If you don't like the idea of slowing down other threads to keep your event threads going, then don't participate in the event unless you feel like you can keep up with all your threads.
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Re: Tournament and event threads

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I never said that noob was slow in events. If I didn't misunderstood then he meant overall frequently posting or did I get it wrong.


Second about the top poster thing I never said we should do that this should have been an overdone example to show a point.


And for the third, I would not do it and I mean others shouldn't do it as well. If you have to lay other matches on ice because you want to get into a event you shouldn't go in a event, because that is pretty mean against the person you have the match with that gets stopped

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Re: Tournament and event threads

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Specifically didn't wanna start calling people out but since you started then I guess I should reply.

1. I specifically said to tournaments and events. I have been very careful not to let those slip. I have once or twice forgotten and the situation was always rectified.

2. Alright.. I didn't specify posting speed so I will now. Don't let your shit sit constantly for close to a week more. I don't believe I've done that either...in an event. I always commit to posting to an event as quickly as I can and generally keep pace with everyone

3. If you agree to an event, Alex, It's very rude keep people waiting.

4. Some people like to leave in the middle of events and keep it waiting for months. That's not cool either Alex. I don't remember ever doing something like that, Alex.

5. Unlike some people, Alex, who I will not call out because that's kinda a dick move...I don't agree to things, not read all the rules, then try to make ultimatums afterwards months after things have already been decided. That's also kinda a dick move that has no place in events.

6. I'm gonna have to disagree about treating it like a normal match. When you agree to an event with multiple people, Alex, when that doesn't finish you mess with more than just one person. In my opinion that one post with multiple people takes precident over another single post with just one person. That's a point that can be argued but I think that ones actually just personal opinion. I think you should be more wary of messing with multiple people's plans or timelines though as opposed to just one other person kept waiting a bit longer.
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Re: Tournament and event threads

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Noob wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:25 pm
TLDR: The amount of time people have has nothing to do with it, it's the fact that some people just don't post frequently or at all which ruins things for the rest of us
Frequently doesn't really matter theres no time or too much stuff going on with it too. And honestly I don't get too mad at people who don't even post at all cause one I know they're struggling, and two, this is for fun and when it becomes a chore fun dies. I refuse to make people post frequently and make it a chore for them.

And just because people want more events FD doesn't mean we should do them. There's a lot of work that goes into an event and we seem to be doing them willy nilly. I think we need a better plan to introduce the belts and events over time.I can't even remember all the things we planned and are about to do.

Theres the blood one, the hentai one, the brawl one, the middle and heavyweight tournys, the main PPV, battlegrounds, and I feel like I forgot others. I wanna do these events but I'm burned out event wise by now. Oh and faction wars. Can't remember if that was an event or just a general thing but I'll list it just in case.

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Re: Tournament and event threads

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To be honest I can see some validity in the " it's for fun " argument, but when you get involved in something that involves multiple people you should try to put some priority over it. I suggest this simply cause it makes sense, with multiple people involved in something it will naturally take longer, and if someone joins an event knowing full well they can't be active to it then that is going to cause the length to increase, which makes it more likely that other users involved with start to become less active at periods since no one is active all the time, and suddenly before you know it everything is moving at a snails pace despite no one actually wishing for such a thing to happen.

Tournaments and multi men threads are a chore, it can be fun, but there's a level of planning and coordination as well as responsibility towards the thread that simply doesn't apply when it's just a thread between two users with no impact on anyone else.

On another note, perhaps we should be a bit more strict with planning events, as to not result in too much cluster where multiple top priority things are happening at the same time. I would actually agree on this point personally, although It certainly has it's pros and cons.

As a final note, select 2 people who can probably guess who they are, stop being silly and name dropping each other :P

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Re: Tournament and event threads

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Caboose2.0 wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:03 pm
Noob wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:25 pm
TLDR: The amount of time people have has nothing to do with it, it's the fact that some people just don't post frequently or at all which ruins things for the rest of us
Frequently doesn't really matter theres no time or too much stuff going on with it too. And honestly I don't get too mad at people who don't even post at all cause one I know they're struggling, and two, this is for fun and when it becomes a chore fun dies. I refuse to make people post frequently and make it a chore for them.

And just because people want more events FD doesn't mean we should do them. There's a lot of work that goes into an event and we seem to be doing them willy nilly. I think we need a better plan to introduce the belts and events over time.I can't even remember all the things we planned and are about to do.

Theres the blood one, the hentai one, the brawl one, the middle and heavyweight tournys, the main PPV, battlegrounds, and I feel like I forgot others. I wanna do these events but I'm burned out event wise by now. Oh and faction wars. Can't remember if that was an event or just a general thing but I'll list it just in case.
If a vote was put down then yes we should do them, thats what the vote is for. This thread is emphasizing a point on caution for participating.

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Re: Tournament and event threads

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Well not the perfect guy to say such things since i am still a newbie around here,but why do not you get more strict with planning events?(i agree with RJD)
Make some rules that should keep the users active and take their matches(either its event or not)more seriously.For example:
Put a certain delay limit for every repost.Example:
A user who is participating in a match has to make atleast 1 post per every week.

User 1:Enters the ring,the hype is real taunts to the crowd.Waitting for his opponent.(posted today 2/20)
User2:(Has to reply before 2/28,so he has a whole free week to make a repost)Enters the ring taunts the opponent,says something and mocks his opponent and etc.(posted 2/25)
If he wont repost within this one week time limit then just take the match down.Now i know that might sound kinda stupid and unfair but guys just think about it.Its just a post,it takes barelly 20 minutes to make it if its a huge one.So cant he spend just few minutes in one whole week to repost?Thats kinda ridiculous If there would be some special reason then he should let the higher ups to know for how long and why so you can allow a delay if the second participant is ok with it.Now some of you might also thing:We cant just cancel an event match or let it take a big delay.My answer is true,i agree since this is our whole problem but if someone is not in position to continue then why do not look for someone else?Give a chance for others to participate in event.I myself was off for like 1 or 2 weeks and could not make any real progress with my current 3 matches i participate in due to the fact it was my exam period i had studies to do.Anyways i think you get the point.And one last note:
Idk how exactly is gonna be the picking of an random guy go on.I have not thought about that and actually i am not planning to :p ,just want to share my opinion by saying that i think it would be better for this rp website get a little stricter or guys would not take it seriously and often be off,in result of creating such problems as this one that is discussed in this thread.

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Re: Tournament and event threads

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I know what this thread is for MD. I'm saying we shouldn't just do what we want, but what will actually work. We haven;t been looking at things realistically and instead we've done whatever we come up with.

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Re: Tournament and event threads

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I agree it shouldn't be a chore and things should be fun, but personally it ruins my fun to have things dragged out and to leave things sitting. At least personally I find things a lot more fun when I can really put myself in things and it's a bit harder to I guess get immersed or what not if I forget what was actually going on cause it's been a week since the last reply.
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Re: Tournament and event threads

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I'm going to say outright and with confidence that the time limit on making a post is without a doubt not happening, since there's no problem with inactivity if it's only influencing yourself and a single role play partner you have a match with. I feel something vital would be lost if we enforced a time limit, and sometimes you get caught up in real life stuff and need to take a break from the site, and I feel this should be something you do whenever you want, rather than having to ask for permission.

Perhaps if someone lets say doesn't post to an event within 3 weeks ( one where time actually matters, unlike lets say a paper view match where there's no real harm done by one match lasting noticeably longer than others. ) Me, Winner or Vcom should hit them up just to understand the situation, or if it's unavoidable for them to post slower and they don't want to hold people up then we could sort out some kind of work around together.

With the stricter rules stuff I feel we should maybe do that relating to multiple overlapping events, though that's my opinion as a user, I can't speak currently to what the result would be if me, Vcom and Winner were to have a long open discussion about it. ( Sorry Winner and Vcom, I'm shooting us as a unit in the foot by giving us more work >< ) Personally though I would highly advocate for there not to be any rules relating to what I'm going to call exhibition matches ( between two users, all discussion is only between them ) should have no rules.

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