Diving forward and seizing hold of Tiki's leg Niko managed to hold on fairly well, weathering the storm of Tiki's attempts at grabbing and lifting her up for the powerbomb.
Enough to pull the woman's legs up and out from under her to take her down to the mat! Smirking at this it would turn into a full on smile as Tiki tried one last time but ended up having her legs taken out from under her before Niko fell right on top, inadvertently smothering the woman with her but!
Well for a few seconds before the water drifted her off the woman's face as she got up to her feet, smiling proudly at successfully pulling off the counter much fast than with the german suplexes. "Hehe, yeah or maybe I'm just too good at learning." She said teasingly in response to Tiki's words before standing up fully and nodding as she prepared for the next rounds.
Pulled down between Tiki's legs Niko would repeat what she had done before. Granted she had the element of surprise then by TIki's own admission, but the foundation of it was solid and she was hoping that even if Tiki expected it the mechanics of it would keep her out of water metaphorically speaking. So she held onto Tiki's legs and tried to pull them out from under her!
It was a method Niko would keep trying for the rest of the power bomb attempts. Adjusting and changing things up as neccessary or based on Tiki wisdom. Just trying her best to keep up and successfully escape the rest of the powerbombs!
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"No such thing exists, Niko," said Tiki in response to the busty Lightweight claiming that she was too good at learning. "But I will grant that you are indeed very adept at understanding and utilizing my teachings. Though with how many times I must've told you that by now, I'm sure you have already learned that fact too, haha."
In contrast to the Suplexes, Niko wasn't changing her strategy up too much with the Powerbombs. She'd tweak this and adjust that here and there, but the overall method was pretty consistent throughout. The student had apparently found an answer that she was comfortable with. Though of course, wrestling was not like math where the right answer would always be right, as shown by Tiki successfully dunking Niko into the water on the very next rep.
Despite Niko's second try with her method not going as well as the first, a consistent attempt soon parleyed into consistent results. While the overall form remained the same, Niko managed to be tricky with the exact minutiae of how she pushed and pulled each time, throwing off the adjustments that Tiki tried to make enough that the veteran found herself off balance more often than not. Niko escaped 6 of the last 7, for a 7/10 total for the set.
"Very well done, Niko," said Tiki. "Impressive use of adjustments to keep me guessing despite re-using the same technique. I'd still recommend getting comfortable with at least one other method of escape so that you can really throw somebody off in a scenario where you absolutely can't afford to take the hit. But like I said, you still did an exemplary job! Piledrivers last, then we can take another break before moving back to the sand for some volleyball."
In contrast to the Suplexes, Niko wasn't changing her strategy up too much with the Powerbombs. She'd tweak this and adjust that here and there, but the overall method was pretty consistent throughout. The student had apparently found an answer that she was comfortable with. Though of course, wrestling was not like math where the right answer would always be right, as shown by Tiki successfully dunking Niko into the water on the very next rep.
Despite Niko's second try with her method not going as well as the first, a consistent attempt soon parleyed into consistent results. While the overall form remained the same, Niko managed to be tricky with the exact minutiae of how she pushed and pulled each time, throwing off the adjustments that Tiki tried to make enough that the veteran found herself off balance more often than not. Niko escaped 6 of the last 7, for a 7/10 total for the set.
"Very well done, Niko," said Tiki. "Impressive use of adjustments to keep me guessing despite re-using the same technique. I'd still recommend getting comfortable with at least one other method of escape so that you can really throw somebody off in a scenario where you absolutely can't afford to take the hit. But like I said, you still did an exemplary job! Piledrivers last, then we can take another break before moving back to the sand for some volleyball."
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Going through the rest of the powerbombs in the set Niko did her absolute best to not only withstand the woman, but exceed her expectations by getting out of as many as possible! Using the same basic technique, but changing it up slightly each time, just enough to keep catching Tiki off guard and take her down to the mat! Finishing up the set with a solid seven out of ten Niko would look up with a smile as Tiki praised her, but reiterated she should still mix it up a bit more with the other ways out but otherwise no issues! "Gotcha can do!" Niko said with a nod as she leaned back and listened as Tiki said they'd take a break after the piledrivers. "Alright sounds good!" Niko said before waiting for the escape lesson the piledrivers, confidence at a major high after the powerbombs!
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"Before I even tell you how to try to escape a Piledriver, you need to know how to take one when you can't escape, Niko." Tiki said. "When you're going down, you CANNOT CANNOT be straight up and down when you hit the mat. If you are, and the crown of your head makes first impact, that is how you break your neck, get brain damage, and get paralyzed. I would not be doing live, full speed drills of this move if we were on a mat, or any hard surface." Tiki paused a moment to collect herself before continuing. "And may God protect you from ever fighting somebody who would try to do this, but if you ever fight anyone who goes for instant Piledrivers, meaning they go down with it either before they stand all the way up or before they finish turning you upside down, then that person is trying to FORCE you take the Piledriver on your head. If you ever end up in a match with somebody who's doing that, forget the rules. Fight that dirty bastard like your life depends on it, because it well and truly might."
"Phoo, now onto the technical aspect of protecting yourself," Tiki said after taking another breath to collect herself. "What you have to do is curl your head up towards your chest and shrug your shoulders up, which will be down in this spot since you'll be upside down, so that they are what hits the water or mat first instead of your head or neck. You want as much of the impact to be absorbed by your shoulders as possible. Even if they're holding you so that your fronts are against each other, and your heights line up so that curling your head in pressed your face into your opponent's crotch, do it. A little crotch in your face is infinitely better than taking a Piledriver on your head."
"Now onto how you can try to escape," Tiki said as her demeanor noticeably picked up a bit. "As always, just not getting lifted up into the air in the first place is the best way to not take a slam, but I don't need to tell you how to do that again. Now with the Powerbombs, I told you to just take it if you get lifted up, but Piledrivers are different," Tiki continued. "Your head has a much lower starting point, plus you'll have it pulled in for safety, so it's a lot less dangerous if you take an awkward drop as long as you aren't getting slammed. Once you're in the air, you probably won't be able to pull your opponent's legs out, so you need to use your legs. Either try to kick them in the face, or wrap your legs around their head and try to pull them off balance." With Tiki through her explanation, now it was time for Niko to try to put her teacher's words into practice.
"Phoo, now onto the technical aspect of protecting yourself," Tiki said after taking another breath to collect herself. "What you have to do is curl your head up towards your chest and shrug your shoulders up, which will be down in this spot since you'll be upside down, so that they are what hits the water or mat first instead of your head or neck. You want as much of the impact to be absorbed by your shoulders as possible. Even if they're holding you so that your fronts are against each other, and your heights line up so that curling your head in pressed your face into your opponent's crotch, do it. A little crotch in your face is infinitely better than taking a Piledriver on your head."
"Now onto how you can try to escape," Tiki said as her demeanor noticeably picked up a bit. "As always, just not getting lifted up into the air in the first place is the best way to not take a slam, but I don't need to tell you how to do that again. Now with the Powerbombs, I told you to just take it if you get lifted up, but Piledrivers are different," Tiki continued. "Your head has a much lower starting point, plus you'll have it pulled in for safety, so it's a lot less dangerous if you take an awkward drop as long as you aren't getting slammed. Once you're in the air, you probably won't be able to pull your opponent's legs out, so you need to use your legs. Either try to kick them in the face, or wrap your legs around their head and try to pull them off balance." With Tiki through her explanation, now it was time for Niko to try to put her teacher's words into practice.
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Standing at attention for Tiki once the second set of moves was finished Niko would remain silent and receptive for this instruction especially given what they were about to get into. After all piledrivers were... scary to say the least. Hell she had anxiety just from performing them on Tiki before and now that she had to potentially take them? Yeah she was definitely going to want to listen to everything Tiki had to say on how to avoid having to do so.
Before that came a rather grave warning though. Nodding through it she remained mostly silent, but the look on her face definitely said something about how seriously even she was taking it. Nodding grimly she would flasha a rare serious look to Tiki. "Got it. I can definitely do that." Niko said with a nod at what Tiki said about if someone tried to intentionally drop her right onto her head. It was absolutely something she didn't need to be told twice.
Luckily though that was it for the more... heavy aspect of the lesson and it would come down to the nitty gritty, actually escaping the move! Nodding eagerly at this Niko would nod and listen as Tiki explained how things would go, first trying not to grabbed, and if she was then use her legs to fight back and hopefully take her down.
"Alright... I think I can do that." Niko said and once Tiki would move to grab her she would instantly try and drop her weight completely, hoping to either break Tiki's grip right away before she could pull her up, or make it way too difficult to haul her up. If not though and she was hauled up, Niko would tuck her head in as instructed and immediately go for a knee to Tiki's face!
Before that came a rather grave warning though. Nodding through it she remained mostly silent, but the look on her face definitely said something about how seriously even she was taking it. Nodding grimly she would flasha a rare serious look to Tiki. "Got it. I can definitely do that." Niko said with a nod at what Tiki said about if someone tried to intentionally drop her right onto her head. It was absolutely something she didn't need to be told twice.
Luckily though that was it for the more... heavy aspect of the lesson and it would come down to the nitty gritty, actually escaping the move! Nodding eagerly at this Niko would nod and listen as Tiki explained how things would go, first trying not to grabbed, and if she was then use her legs to fight back and hopefully take her down.
"Alright... I think I can do that." Niko said and once Tiki would move to grab her she would instantly try and drop her weight completely, hoping to either break Tiki's grip right away before she could pull her up, or make it way too difficult to haul her up. If not though and she was hauled up, Niko would tuck her head in as instructed and immediately go for a knee to Tiki's face!
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It wasn't Tiki's intent to scare Niko with her warnings, but she had to get the potential severity of the situation through to her student. As Niko's teacher, Tiki felt the responsibility to do everything in her power to prepare the pinkette for what she may face and to keep her safe. Tiki hoped that she hadn't come on too strongly, but if she had, at least it had been effective, as her words had prompted a level of seriousness from Niko that the veteran did not see often from her.
Even Niko's spirits didn't seem to bounce back fully once the focus shifted to less somber thoughts. Though that could just be attributed to the busty student trying to focus on Tiki's instruction, as her spirits did seem to lift somewhat. Niko seemed to comprehend what Tiki was saying well enough, and soon they were going into the last set of reps for the power move practice.
Niko tried to make herself heavy, but as one might expect, Tiki was still able to lift her up. The Lightweight then tried to knee her teacher as gravity pulled her breasts down towards her face. The attack struck, but did little. It struck the bony part of Tiki's chest above her own breasts but below her throat. Not a significant enough spot to disrupt Tiki considering the limited power that Niko could get behind it from her position.
So as with the first rep of the other two moves, Niko ended up getting slammed into the water with a large splash. Though Tiki did gratefully notice that her student had properly protected her head. "First thing's first, good job protecting your head," said Tiki. "As for the escape, it had the same problem as your first try at the Powerbombs did; you aren't nearly heavy enough to try to make yourself to difficult to lift purely by trying to make yourself heavy. There's just too much of a size difference. Secondly, knees won't work to strike your way free. You can't get enough behind them, and even if you could, your knee usually won't be high enough to catch the head. You've gotta try to use your feet or lower legs."
Even Niko's spirits didn't seem to bounce back fully once the focus shifted to less somber thoughts. Though that could just be attributed to the busty student trying to focus on Tiki's instruction, as her spirits did seem to lift somewhat. Niko seemed to comprehend what Tiki was saying well enough, and soon they were going into the last set of reps for the power move practice.
Niko tried to make herself heavy, but as one might expect, Tiki was still able to lift her up. The Lightweight then tried to knee her teacher as gravity pulled her breasts down towards her face. The attack struck, but did little. It struck the bony part of Tiki's chest above her own breasts but below her throat. Not a significant enough spot to disrupt Tiki considering the limited power that Niko could get behind it from her position.
So as with the first rep of the other two moves, Niko ended up getting slammed into the water with a large splash. Though Tiki did gratefully notice that her student had properly protected her head. "First thing's first, good job protecting your head," said Tiki. "As for the escape, it had the same problem as your first try at the Powerbombs did; you aren't nearly heavy enough to try to make yourself to difficult to lift purely by trying to make yourself heavy. There's just too much of a size difference. Secondly, knees won't work to strike your way free. You can't get enough behind them, and even if you could, your knee usually won't be high enough to catch the head. You've gotta try to use your feet or lower legs."
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Hefted up into Tiki's arms for the piledriver position Niko's attempt at being dead weight didn't work, similar to her attempt to do so with the powerbombs, only she realized it too late and her knees did far too little to shake her teacher! As a result she was brought down hard into the water! "Pwah!" Niko gasped out, shooting out of the water and shaking her head softly while looking up at Tiki.
If nothing else she was at least praised for tucking her head in which she smiled and nodded at. Then came the critique though and sure enough as she suspected in the last moments before being brought down deadweight was the same issue as the powerbomb, she was just too light for Tiki. "Yeahhh that's my bad there for not remembering." Niko admitted with a nod.
With that being said though the information about her knees not being effective and why was news to her. "Ohhh I see. Yeah that makes sense. Hmph, sounds like this stuff would be going better if you weren't so tall." Niko said with a faux pout on her face before getting up into a full standing position and offering herself up to Tiki in preparation for the second piledriver rep.
Grabbed once again by her teacher and lifted up into the air Niko was already thinking of what to do, knees weren't going to work and dropping her weight would be worse. In general she wasn't very confident in her strikes as a whole in her strikes... But there was something she was a little more confident in, whether it worked or not though would still be a crap shoot. Curling her legs around Tiki's head Niko would hook her ankles and squeeze her legs together as tightly as possible attempting to cinch in a extra tight headscissor on her, that would also just so happen push Tiki's face into her crotch. A purely unintentional, but potentially helpful side effect.
If nothing else she was at least praised for tucking her head in which she smiled and nodded at. Then came the critique though and sure enough as she suspected in the last moments before being brought down deadweight was the same issue as the powerbomb, she was just too light for Tiki. "Yeahhh that's my bad there for not remembering." Niko admitted with a nod.
With that being said though the information about her knees not being effective and why was news to her. "Ohhh I see. Yeah that makes sense. Hmph, sounds like this stuff would be going better if you weren't so tall." Niko said with a faux pout on her face before getting up into a full standing position and offering herself up to Tiki in preparation for the second piledriver rep.
Grabbed once again by her teacher and lifted up into the air Niko was already thinking of what to do, knees weren't going to work and dropping her weight would be worse. In general she wasn't very confident in her strikes as a whole in her strikes... But there was something she was a little more confident in, whether it worked or not though would still be a crap shoot. Curling her legs around Tiki's head Niko would hook her ankles and squeeze her legs together as tightly as possible attempting to cinch in a extra tight headscissor on her, that would also just so happen push Tiki's face into her crotch. A purely unintentional, but potentially helpful side effect.
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"It's alright, Niko," Tiki said in response to her student taking the blame for her failure. "Better to get it through when you're getting slammed into water by your teacher, rather than onto a mat by somebody trying to beat you." Then the veteran let out a chuckle at Niko's complaint about her height. "Actually, that advice is consistent for any opponent. Sure their head might be lower, but then they'll also be holding you lower too. Knees probably wouldn't work unless your opponent is significantly shorter than you."
With that, it was time for the second rep. Tiki managed to lift Niko up again, so it would be on the busty pinkette to break out before the greenette could drop her. "Urk!" Tiki gagged for a moment as Niko's thighs closed around her throat, but that extra moment was all that she was going to get before Tiki put her in the water with a splash for a second time.
After Niko came back up, Tiki would once more explain where she went wrong, "I didn't feel you pulling on me after you secured the Headscissor, so I'm going to assume that you were just going for a choke. The issue with that is when you usually lock in a Headscissor, a degree of control over your opponent's movement comes with it. But if I'm standing, nothing is stopping me from still just going straight down like I did." Tiki would then explain the correct course of action, "If you go for a Headscissor style escape, you've gotta just try to drag me down immediately. Don't even squeeze beyond what you need to secure a grip. Just grab and pull."
With that, it was time for the second rep. Tiki managed to lift Niko up again, so it would be on the busty pinkette to break out before the greenette could drop her. "Urk!" Tiki gagged for a moment as Niko's thighs closed around her throat, but that extra moment was all that she was going to get before Tiki put her in the water with a splash for a second time.
After Niko came back up, Tiki would once more explain where she went wrong, "I didn't feel you pulling on me after you secured the Headscissor, so I'm going to assume that you were just going for a choke. The issue with that is when you usually lock in a Headscissor, a degree of control over your opponent's movement comes with it. But if I'm standing, nothing is stopping me from still just going straight down like I did." Tiki would then explain the correct course of action, "If you go for a Headscissor style escape, you've gotta just try to drag me down immediately. Don't even squeeze beyond what you need to secure a grip. Just grab and pull."
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Lifted up once more after listening to Tiki's instruction once again Niko would try once again, this time locking her thighs around Tiki's head as tightly as possible and losing herself a bit, hoping it would be enough to stall her. Unfortunately it barely bought her an additional second or two before she went plummeting back into the water again!
"Pfft! Awww man!" Niko groaned out as she spat out some water, before standing up and focusing on the green haired woman as she once again explained where things went wrong. "Ohhh so it has to be a pull you off your feet type thing. I see." Niko said, bopping herself on the forehead as she leaned back before setting herself forward again and focusing no Tiki and giving a confident nod to the woman. "I'll get it this time." She said confidently, ready for the next try.
Grabbed and hauled up into the air and turned around in position for the piledriver! This time though Niko would clamp her legs around Tiki's head tightly, just like beofre. Unlike her previous try though and true to what Tiki said Niko would pull forward, using all the power her thighs provided while she began to twist her hips, attempting to generate as much force as possible to pull the older woman off her feet and take her down into the water!
"Pfft! Awww man!" Niko groaned out as she spat out some water, before standing up and focusing on the green haired woman as she once again explained where things went wrong. "Ohhh so it has to be a pull you off your feet type thing. I see." Niko said, bopping herself on the forehead as she leaned back before setting herself forward again and focusing no Tiki and giving a confident nod to the woman. "I'll get it this time." She said confidently, ready for the next try.
Grabbed and hauled up into the air and turned around in position for the piledriver! This time though Niko would clamp her legs around Tiki's head tightly, just like beofre. Unlike her previous try though and true to what Tiki said Niko would pull forward, using all the power her thighs provided while she began to twist her hips, attempting to generate as much force as possible to pull the older woman off her feet and take her down into the water!
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"Exactly Niko. It's not about the choke, it's about the ability to pull," Tiki said as her student affirmed the instructions. The veteran wondered if she should instruct Niko to try focusing more on escaping before she was lifted up into the air at all, but decided against it. The busty pinkette had already practiced that with the Powerbombs, so it would make sense if Niko wanted to focus more on escaping the more unique part of the Piledriver.
Tiki winced as she felt Niko start to pull once they had set up for the third Piledriver. Oh, she's so close, she thought as she both went into the water, with Tiki's body crashing down on top of Niko's. The student had avoiding a Piledriver, which was progress, but had effectively pulled herself into a Body Slam instead.
"Better, but not quite," Tiki said. "As I'm sure you noticed, pulling forward ends up with me still landing on top of you. It's better than getting hit with the Piledriver, but ideally, you land with nothing on top of you. To that end, you have to pull to one side or the other. But you're practically there, just fix that one little thing."
Tiki winced as she felt Niko start to pull once they had set up for the third Piledriver. Oh, she's so close, she thought as she both went into the water, with Tiki's body crashing down on top of Niko's. The student had avoiding a Piledriver, which was progress, but had effectively pulled herself into a Body Slam instead.
"Better, but not quite," Tiki said. "As I'm sure you noticed, pulling forward ends up with me still landing on top of you. It's better than getting hit with the Piledriver, but ideally, you land with nothing on top of you. To that end, you have to pull to one side or the other. But you're practically there, just fix that one little thing."
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