Plopping down on the warm sand Niko would look up at Tiki, trying her best to pay attention to her instruction while catching her breath. "Huh ok... so I can try to avoid it all together. Good to know." She said with a nod of understanding, definitely taking that to heart with a nod towards the woman before listening to the actual advice on what to do about the moves themselves which made a good amount of sense.
Even if it was a lot of information for her, but she could deal with it for the most part. Or at least enough to try and get her free from at least one or two of Tiki's suplex attempts. Nodding as Tiki said she would explain the escape methods for the other moves once they got to them Niko would nod while shooting up to her feet. "Alright sounds like a good idea lets do this." Niko said with a nod as she began to wad back out right along side with Tiki, mentally preparing herself for what she was about to go through.
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Tiki and Niko went back out to the water and the instructor took her position behind her student. There wouldn't be any type of warning, Niko would just have to react as soon as she could see Tiki's hands coming around from behind. On the first rep, Niko was overwhelmed. She managed to bat one of the veteran's hands down once, but Tiki almost instantly brought it back up to secure the grip and suplexed the busty Lightweight into the water without issue.
"Yeah, it's a lot faster when you actually have to do it, then when you're just thinking of doing it, isn't it?" Tiki would say once Niko resurfaced. "Almost always is when it comes to fighting. Come on, next rep." On the second rep, Niko tried to grab Tiki's arms, but the instructor just powered her way through and held off her student's attempts at twisting free once she was in the air.
On the next rep, Niko seemed to accept Tiki getting the grab and tried to put it all on hooking the greenette's leg to stop the German Suplex, but Tiki had a bit of a dirty trick up her sleeve. Knowing that Niko had gotten behind her leg, Tiki pulled her busty protégé to the side first to unhook her leg before completing the suplex.
"I know I didn't mention that trick, and it's my bad, but that's what makes the leg hook tricky," said Tiki. "Go for it too early, or at least without making the attacker spend their attention focusing on getting a grip at all, and they can recognize the leg hook and adjust for it. Let's keep at it." Niko was 0 for 3 so far, but she still had plenty of tries left to at least get one or two. It would be easy, but Tiki had faith her student could pull it off.
"Yeah, it's a lot faster when you actually have to do it, then when you're just thinking of doing it, isn't it?" Tiki would say once Niko resurfaced. "Almost always is when it comes to fighting. Come on, next rep." On the second rep, Niko tried to grab Tiki's arms, but the instructor just powered her way through and held off her student's attempts at twisting free once she was in the air.
On the next rep, Niko seemed to accept Tiki getting the grab and tried to put it all on hooking the greenette's leg to stop the German Suplex, but Tiki had a bit of a dirty trick up her sleeve. Knowing that Niko had gotten behind her leg, Tiki pulled her busty protégé to the side first to unhook her leg before completing the suplex.
"I know I didn't mention that trick, and it's my bad, but that's what makes the leg hook tricky," said Tiki. "Go for it too early, or at least without making the attacker spend their attention focusing on getting a grip at all, and they can recognize the leg hook and adjust for it. Let's keep at it." Niko was 0 for 3 so far, but she still had plenty of tries left to at least get one or two. It would be easy, but Tiki had faith her student could pull it off.
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Once back out to the neccessary depth Niko would nod to show her readiness and got ready, reacting as soon as she felt Tiki's hands come.. only she was nowhere near fast enough and the veteran's grip latched around before she yanked through the air and thrown into the water! "Blah.. Yeah definitely not as easy as you make it sound." she said in agreement with her teacher before shaking her head to shake some of the water off before taking her position once more.
Just like before though Tiki would get this one off just fine, Niko's attempts at pulling the arms from around her waist just being totally overpowered by the older woman before once more she found herself in the water. "Ugh..." Niko groaned out as she got out of the water again before retaking her position and this time trying something different as Tiki lifted her back, rearing her legs back to try and hook against Tiki's legs to try and halt movements, only for Tiki to do something surprising that caught Niko off guard!
"Ughhh... No fair.." Niko groaned out with a pout as she resurfaced once again before listening to Tiki's explanation of it and nodding. 'early huh?' Niko thought to herself, humming slightly in thought as she re took her position and got ready. This time as Tiki went for the grab she would pause for a moment, waiting just a bit longer than last time before trying to combine what Tiki had taught her. First putting her hands on Tiki's before rearing her legs behind Tiki's, trying to hook her feet around the woman's legs at the same time as she pulled on the hands. Hoping that one of the two methods would work for her this time!
Just like before though Tiki would get this one off just fine, Niko's attempts at pulling the arms from around her waist just being totally overpowered by the older woman before once more she found herself in the water. "Ugh..." Niko groaned out as she got out of the water again before retaking her position and this time trying something different as Tiki lifted her back, rearing her legs back to try and hook against Tiki's legs to try and halt movements, only for Tiki to do something surprising that caught Niko off guard!
"Ughhh... No fair.." Niko groaned out with a pout as she resurfaced once again before listening to Tiki's explanation of it and nodding. 'early huh?' Niko thought to herself, humming slightly in thought as she re took her position and got ready. This time as Tiki went for the grab she would pause for a moment, waiting just a bit longer than last time before trying to combine what Tiki had taught her. First putting her hands on Tiki's before rearing her legs behind Tiki's, trying to hook her feet around the woman's legs at the same time as she pulled on the hands. Hoping that one of the two methods would work for her this time!
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As the fourth German Suplex rep went underway, Tiki had to admit that she wasn't very convinced by Niko's tactic of allowing herself to get grabbed in favor of trying to focus on the other two potential phases of escape. As far as Tiki was aware, trying to stop the grab altogether didn't interfere with the ability to try to use other methods to escape, so the veteran believed that there really wasn't any reason not to at least try.
What was in Niko's favor, however, was that her leg hook was much more well timed than it had been on the previous attempt. Tiki had already committed to her backwards motion, so there was no way that she could try to pull her little trick again without seriously risking her ability to balance herself. However, Tiki was able to keep enough control over her hooked leg, and keep enough strength and balance in her grounded leg that she still got Niko into the air.
Niko was not done trying to escape yet, though, as she pulled hard in Tiki's grip, putting even more of a burden on the leg that the greenette still had planted on the ground. Enough so that Tiki wasn't able to complete the Suplex. She lost her grip on Niko, throwing the busty pinkette off to the side to land in the water with a sizable splash. It wouldn't be the softest landing in an actual ring, but it was better enough compared to getting German Suplexed that this counted as a success for the student.
"Nice Niko! You got one," Tiki said as she surfaced from her own awkward entry into the water. "I have to ask though, why did you decide to start letting me just get the grab before you start trying to fight back? Is there an issue with trying to fend off my arms while also trying to get the leg hook for you? Clearly your approach can work, but it seemed strange to me."
What was in Niko's favor, however, was that her leg hook was much more well timed than it had been on the previous attempt. Tiki had already committed to her backwards motion, so there was no way that she could try to pull her little trick again without seriously risking her ability to balance herself. However, Tiki was able to keep enough control over her hooked leg, and keep enough strength and balance in her grounded leg that she still got Niko into the air.
Niko was not done trying to escape yet, though, as she pulled hard in Tiki's grip, putting even more of a burden on the leg that the greenette still had planted on the ground. Enough so that Tiki wasn't able to complete the Suplex. She lost her grip on Niko, throwing the busty pinkette off to the side to land in the water with a sizable splash. It wouldn't be the softest landing in an actual ring, but it was better enough compared to getting German Suplexed that this counted as a success for the student.
"Nice Niko! You got one," Tiki said as she surfaced from her own awkward entry into the water. "I have to ask though, why did you decide to start letting me just get the grab before you start trying to fight back? Is there an issue with trying to fend off my arms while also trying to get the leg hook for you? Clearly your approach can work, but it seemed strange to me."
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Admittedly Niko was having a bit of trouble with the defense based objective of this particular exercise between them. Now admittedly it took practice, and maybe she was just not getting something, but with each suplex attempt she was getting just a bit better! Thrown back for a third attempt Niko would manage to combine the leg hook and grip break in order to successfully pull herself free from Tiki's grasp! Though it led to her getting thrown into the water as a result.... But she would take it!
"Woo!' Niko yelled out as she popped out of the water, shaking her hair to get out some of the water in it before standing up straight and smiling at her teacher as she began talking. As she did so the woman would express some confusion over what Niko had been doing up until now. Blinking softly Niko would nod softly. "Well I guess after that first attempt I kinda freaked and thought it wouldn't work, but I can try!" Niko said with a nod of anticipation.
Taking her place once again Niko would take a deep breath, waiting as Tiki rushed in, before moving her arms down to try and bat and push the green haired woman's limbs away from her own. Unfortunately like the first suplex attempt she wouldn't be able to bat the limbs aside before Tiki's arms powered through and coiled around her waist before taking her backwards, not giving her the chance to try either of her other strategies before she was suplexed once again!
"Ugh... Darn.. this time though!" Niko said as she got up and resumed her position for the fifth suplex, this time pulling her arms in and a little bit sooner than before, jutting both out to the side to stop Tiki's hands all together in a way that would prevent her from even trying to bat her hands to the side! All while Niko would dart forward to fully make sure Tiki couldn't try and cinch the grip in once again! 'Yes!' Niko thought to herself when successful.
Now going through the rest of the throws Niko had managed to find something of a groove. Alternating between the tactics she had been shown to successfully escape suplex attempt after suplex attempt, but admittedly making a mis step on the eighth suplex but then redeeming herself on the ninth and tenth for what she felt was a respectable score!
"Woo!' Niko yelled out as she popped out of the water, shaking her hair to get out some of the water in it before standing up straight and smiling at her teacher as she began talking. As she did so the woman would express some confusion over what Niko had been doing up until now. Blinking softly Niko would nod softly. "Well I guess after that first attempt I kinda freaked and thought it wouldn't work, but I can try!" Niko said with a nod of anticipation.
Taking her place once again Niko would take a deep breath, waiting as Tiki rushed in, before moving her arms down to try and bat and push the green haired woman's limbs away from her own. Unfortunately like the first suplex attempt she wouldn't be able to bat the limbs aside before Tiki's arms powered through and coiled around her waist before taking her backwards, not giving her the chance to try either of her other strategies before she was suplexed once again!
"Ugh... Darn.. this time though!" Niko said as she got up and resumed her position for the fifth suplex, this time pulling her arms in and a little bit sooner than before, jutting both out to the side to stop Tiki's hands all together in a way that would prevent her from even trying to bat her hands to the side! All while Niko would dart forward to fully make sure Tiki couldn't try and cinch the grip in once again! 'Yes!' Niko thought to herself when successful.
Now going through the rest of the throws Niko had managed to find something of a groove. Alternating between the tactics she had been shown to successfully escape suplex attempt after suplex attempt, but admittedly making a mis step on the eighth suplex but then redeeming herself on the ninth and tenth for what she felt was a respectable score!
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"Coordinate your movements more, it won't work if you're not starting one way until you stop the other like it's a sequence," Tiki said after Niko failed the fifth Suplex. "You can start the leg hook while you're still in the middle of trying to keep me from getting the grab. The hook isn't an incredibly complex movement, so it should eat up too much concentration."
That advice seemed to make something click for Niko, as she managed to use each of the various methods of escape to avoid all but one of Tiki's German Suplexes, giving her a 50% success rate for escaping them. "Very well done Niko!" praised Tiki. "Side note, a 50/50 split despite the difference in our abilities is the reason I don't like going for committal attacks without some sort of preexisting setup or advantage to work with."
"Next, let's do the Powerbombs," said Tiki, hoping her oncoming explanation could serve as something of a breather for Niko. "Escaping this is all about not getting picked up in the first place. Luckily there are a number of different ways to do that; pulling my arms off as you pull your head away, pulling my legs out from under me, pushing yourself through my legs, a leg hook, there's a lot of stuff you can try."
Tiki paused before continuing, "There two options after you've been lifted up, but they are dangerous. The water makes them safe here, but there is enough risk in a match that most wrestlers will just take the Powerbomb once they're in the air. You can try to grab, pull, or strike at the opponent's head, or try to wrap your legs around their head or neck and try to drag them down." Tiki then made sure to articulate her next words very clearly, "The risk, comes from it being very easy for doing this to result in your head or neck landing on the mat at a very dangerous angle, potentially with a lot of your opponent's weight on top of it as well. Feel free to test it out if you want here since the water will stop anything disastrous, but note that it will be a fail if you go head or neck first into the water. And Niko, please be very careful if you ever try to escape a Powerbomb this way in any arena with a solid floor."
That advice seemed to make something click for Niko, as she managed to use each of the various methods of escape to avoid all but one of Tiki's German Suplexes, giving her a 50% success rate for escaping them. "Very well done Niko!" praised Tiki. "Side note, a 50/50 split despite the difference in our abilities is the reason I don't like going for committal attacks without some sort of preexisting setup or advantage to work with."
"Next, let's do the Powerbombs," said Tiki, hoping her oncoming explanation could serve as something of a breather for Niko. "Escaping this is all about not getting picked up in the first place. Luckily there are a number of different ways to do that; pulling my arms off as you pull your head away, pulling my legs out from under me, pushing yourself through my legs, a leg hook, there's a lot of stuff you can try."
Tiki paused before continuing, "There two options after you've been lifted up, but they are dangerous. The water makes them safe here, but there is enough risk in a match that most wrestlers will just take the Powerbomb once they're in the air. You can try to grab, pull, or strike at the opponent's head, or try to wrap your legs around their head or neck and try to drag them down." Tiki then made sure to articulate her next words very clearly, "The risk, comes from it being very easy for doing this to result in your head or neck landing on the mat at a very dangerous angle, potentially with a lot of your opponent's weight on top of it as well. Feel free to test it out if you want here since the water will stop anything disastrous, but note that it will be a fail if you go head or neck first into the water. And Niko, please be very careful if you ever try to escape a Powerbomb this way in any arena with a solid floor."
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Popping out of the water again and shaking her head free from the excess of sea water in it Niko would look up at her teacher from the water as Tiki complimented her and made a note of how risky such a move with commitment could be. "Yeah I never really thought about it before to be honest." Niko admitted with a nod before perking up as Tiki began to go over the details of the next set of moves they'd be doing, the powerbombs which honestly made Niko gulp slightly.
After all... powerbombs were definitely an intimidating move to take, not as intimidating as the one that would be next, but intimidating nonetheless. Especially with the warning the woman gave her about how dangerous it was to try and escape from the air and how much more restriction there would be on her if she chose to try and escape that way. Gulping she gave a quick nod to her mentor "Yeah no I think I'll just try and escape the normal way no problemo." Niko said quickly, not even wanting to think about that kinda fall.
Taking a deep breath as she sat up and leaned forward a bit Niko would give a affirmative nod to Tiki to show she was ready. "Lets do this." Niko said with a earnest nod as she waited for Tiki to put her in position for the move. The moment she perceived it was ok then Niko would immediately put her hands up against Tiki's legs, specifically at the knees before pulling forward, trying to force herself between Tiki's legs and roll through to escape the woman's clutches!
After all... powerbombs were definitely an intimidating move to take, not as intimidating as the one that would be next, but intimidating nonetheless. Especially with the warning the woman gave her about how dangerous it was to try and escape from the air and how much more restriction there would be on her if she chose to try and escape that way. Gulping she gave a quick nod to her mentor "Yeah no I think I'll just try and escape the normal way no problemo." Niko said quickly, not even wanting to think about that kinda fall.
Taking a deep breath as she sat up and leaned forward a bit Niko would give a affirmative nod to Tiki to show she was ready. "Lets do this." Niko said with a earnest nod as she waited for Tiki to put her in position for the move. The moment she perceived it was ok then Niko would immediately put her hands up against Tiki's legs, specifically at the knees before pulling forward, trying to force herself between Tiki's legs and roll through to escape the woman's clutches!
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As Tiki heard Niko's lack of prior thought on commitment in wrestling, she decided to expand on her point, "When most people hear 'technical skill' or 'technical wrestling,' they usually think of having the skill to pull off really complex moves and combos. But I think differently. After all, in most scenarios, a simpler move will be able to accomplish what you need at a higher success rate because it's easier to execute. I believe that technical skill truly comes from the ability to pick what option to do in which spots. Knowing when you should go for the more complex option, a simpler one, or even when to just back off."
Tiki could tell that her explanation into the potential dangers of a Powerbomb where more than a little off-putting to Niko. "I support that decision completely," she said when her student expressed the intent to not even bother with the riskier aspects of escaping. "Alright then, let's get started with the second set, shall we?"
Niko pulled Tiki forwards by her knees as she tried to push her way between them to avoid the Powerbomb. The veteran kept her balance and staggered back a few steps, managing to keep Niko in front of her even if it didn't look very pretty. Once Tiki felt she could do so without falling backwards, she lifted Niko up into the air, and a couple moments later, SPLASH!
"Ooh, I didn't sting your back, did I?" Tiki asked after slamming Niko down into the water. "It wasn't a problem for me when I was getting slammed, but I did come down pretty hard to make sure you didn't come lose." Once Niko was back up and alright, Tiki would continue, "That wasn't wrong per se, but I would try to escape a Powerbomb like that if you're opponent bigger than you. If you want to go through my legs, I recommend pulling one of your hands off my knee after the initial pull and trying to make yourself really small. Pull your head and shoulders in, turn your body, and try to slip through rather, than trying to push your way through by force."
Tiki could tell that her explanation into the potential dangers of a Powerbomb where more than a little off-putting to Niko. "I support that decision completely," she said when her student expressed the intent to not even bother with the riskier aspects of escaping. "Alright then, let's get started with the second set, shall we?"
Niko pulled Tiki forwards by her knees as she tried to push her way between them to avoid the Powerbomb. The veteran kept her balance and staggered back a few steps, managing to keep Niko in front of her even if it didn't look very pretty. Once Tiki felt she could do so without falling backwards, she lifted Niko up into the air, and a couple moments later, SPLASH!
"Ooh, I didn't sting your back, did I?" Tiki asked after slamming Niko down into the water. "It wasn't a problem for me when I was getting slammed, but I did come down pretty hard to make sure you didn't come lose." Once Niko was back up and alright, Tiki would continue, "That wasn't wrong per se, but I would try to escape a Powerbomb like that if you're opponent bigger than you. If you want to go through my legs, I recommend pulling one of your hands off my knee after the initial pull and trying to make yourself really small. Pull your head and shoulders in, turn your body, and try to slip through rather, than trying to push your way through by force."
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Niko was definitely worried about this particular exercise and the potential risk it posed to herself. That being said though it would actually act as motivation for the girl as she quickly scrambled forward between Tiki's legs, trying to push them out so she just slid on through and avoid being grabbed.
Unfortunately though Tiki's balance was just too darn good at keeping her balance, leading to her grabbing and hauling Niko up through the air! "Wahhhh!" Niko yelped out as she was held aloft before being flung down into the water with a momentous splash! "Ngh.. plshhh!" Niko groaned before spitting some water out and shaking her head as Tiki apologized about the force but Niko just held her hand up.
"Its ok.. it wasn't that bad." She said before shaking her head to get the water out before standing at attention to listen where she went wrong, apparently a result of her not making herself small enough, and it not necessarily being the ideal escape route with Tiki specifically.
"Hmm I see." Niko said, nodding as she returned to the start position and this time once Tiki started Niko would again grab Tiki's legs, curling her arms much tighter around them. This time she was looking to pull them back while trying to stand up to take the woman's legs out from under her all together with a double leg take down! Or at the very least with her arms wrapped so tightly around Tiki's legs, Niko hoped that even if the take down failed, that her grip would be too strong to break so Tiki couldn't powerbomb her regardless!
Unfortunately though Tiki's balance was just too darn good at keeping her balance, leading to her grabbing and hauling Niko up through the air! "Wahhhh!" Niko yelped out as she was held aloft before being flung down into the water with a momentous splash! "Ngh.. plshhh!" Niko groaned before spitting some water out and shaking her head as Tiki apologized about the force but Niko just held her hand up.
"Its ok.. it wasn't that bad." She said before shaking her head to get the water out before standing at attention to listen where she went wrong, apparently a result of her not making herself small enough, and it not necessarily being the ideal escape route with Tiki specifically.
"Hmm I see." Niko said, nodding as she returned to the start position and this time once Tiki started Niko would again grab Tiki's legs, curling her arms much tighter around them. This time she was looking to pull them back while trying to stand up to take the woman's legs out from under her all together with a double leg take down! Or at the very least with her arms wrapped so tightly around Tiki's legs, Niko hoped that even if the take down failed, that her grip would be too strong to break so Tiki couldn't powerbomb her regardless!
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Tiki was confused for a moment after Niko had started her second rep. It looked like the busty Lightweight was still trying to just brute force her way through, but just pulling Tiki's legs in a different direction this time. Only once the veteran recognized just how Niko was applying her force, did she understand what her student was really trying to do.
Niko was pulling Tiki's legs in one direction, and trying to push the greenette's body in the opposite direction. The textbook concept behind a proper takedown that Tiki had taught Niko during their first training session. It certainly was an unorthodox position to do it from, but if the tilting in the veteran's body was anything to go by, it was far from an ineffective one.
As Tiki felt herself slipping backwards, she knew that she just had to go for it, as her only other option was just to accept the takedown at Niko's hands. But fortunately for the pinkette, Tiki's weight was already shifted too far back for her to be able to lift Niko up and not collapse completely. In fact, just eating the takedown would have been the better option, as all the veteran accomplished in her attempt at getting the Powerbomb off was pulling Niko up far enough so that her butt came down on Tiki's face as the two fell into the water.
Were this on dry land, Niko would have fallen right into a Facesit. But as it stood, the two women separated as Tiki's head and Niko's body sunk in opposite directions. Once Tiki came back up, she would praise her student, "Nice work, Niko. I honestly misjudged what you were going for at the start, and it got me behind. Then i just got greedy trying to do the Powerbomb anyway." Tiki laughed with her admission of error. "Guess even I'm not a perfect wrestler, eh Niko?"
Niko was pulling Tiki's legs in one direction, and trying to push the greenette's body in the opposite direction. The textbook concept behind a proper takedown that Tiki had taught Niko during their first training session. It certainly was an unorthodox position to do it from, but if the tilting in the veteran's body was anything to go by, it was far from an ineffective one.
As Tiki felt herself slipping backwards, she knew that she just had to go for it, as her only other option was just to accept the takedown at Niko's hands. But fortunately for the pinkette, Tiki's weight was already shifted too far back for her to be able to lift Niko up and not collapse completely. In fact, just eating the takedown would have been the better option, as all the veteran accomplished in her attempt at getting the Powerbomb off was pulling Niko up far enough so that her butt came down on Tiki's face as the two fell into the water.
Were this on dry land, Niko would have fallen right into a Facesit. But as it stood, the two women separated as Tiki's head and Niko's body sunk in opposite directions. Once Tiki came back up, she would praise her student, "Nice work, Niko. I honestly misjudged what you were going for at the start, and it got me behind. Then i just got greedy trying to do the Powerbomb anyway." Tiki laughed with her admission of error. "Guess even I'm not a perfect wrestler, eh Niko?"
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